QWB Flyers
So I’ve had this design floating around in my head for awhile, and I got the old layout-fever tonight
. I really love to cut, paste, juxtapose, nudge, stretch, preview, adjust and touch-up flyers.
So, we have two slightly different versions here, and I’m open to suggestions on what to change/add. The differentiations have more to do with message clarity than content, which is the positioning of the “queers without borders” text. They’re meant to be cut in half.
Be brutal.
Here’s a couple more with different logos.
This is a classic image everyone will recognize, and I like for leftists to identify with it.
And this is just because I like the flying pig. Plus, I think having it coupled with QWB gives it an interesting new dimension.
I haven’t designed any of the logos, just borrowed them from elsewhere. If anyone has any graphics they’d like to see on there let me know, or we could just go without one.
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Matt
Thanks for doing this. It is a project that has been on hold. Once we get it done we can also e-mail it out and leave the leaflet around. Below is my two cents.
In our address add after com/wpmu.
I like the lay out of QWB in leaflet number 1 the best. It doesn’t look so squashed in. The background words can/do convey the many minds and thinking of QWB. Of those of us who work now and more than likely our silent partners who just read what we write. The background words also are beautiful. (on my art level each word becomes a political work of art.)
The photo while daring and beautiful does not convey everyone’s ideas. It is what I would call a “wish for.” It is a very good visualization of the thinking of some of our members and readers or a cell within our group. But only some. This is a lot like trying to do a new flag. We all are so many different ideas that it is almost impossible. At this point in time we need to build some sort of a comfort level with people who are reading our works and educate them to the possible of what the photo speaks of. We have a lot of work to do as you know the number of our group and the number of the mainstream glbt group. We need to move some of those people away from “I do —ing” 24/7 or wanting to get rid of DADT to a multi-issue platform. Its alot like affinity groups. Not everyone is ready for everything and in many things it is on many levels. You know what I mean as you are the number #1 thinker about affinity groups, etc.
So that’s it Matt. Only my thoughts. I hope others will send in theirs.
Another thought. I would like to see the photo posted as work on the blog site. In our “picture is worth a 1,000 words postings.” Tell us about it. Educate us. Why should we tip over police cars? Burn things? Throw things? Why should we be at that point in the revolt and not at only the demo, sit-in, letter writing points. Is there a point and in some actions were we become the photo. A turning point. Most americans would rather shop till they drop as not many of the issues seem to apply to them.
I like it, but as for the graphic of the cop car, I’m wondering if it could be tweaked some so that what’s happening is instantly recognizable. I don’t know if that means adding some gray somewhere so that the action of tipping a car stands out from the others.
It is one thing to express opinions by posting our ideas on the blog without limitations but another when one is designing a logo or an emblem for a group. Not all of us are anarchists and some are pacifists. The logo leaves little doubt that we are a violent group which we are not.
Otherwise leaflet one is the one for me.
OK, thanks for the feedback folks. Check the original message for a couple more examples.
OH Matt
The fish or the flying pig. Now you got me. Of course I love the fish and you know how much I love the flying pig.I will sit it out and wait for others to speak up.
But in all fairness we should at least wait for Jeri, Anja, Frank, Alvin, Paul,Peter and hopefully some of our silent partners to weigh in. Keri did bring up a very good point. I will e-mail them to take a look and send in what they think.
Would you think about a posting with the original picture with a written text? I want to hear you!!!!!
Thanks again Matt.
I like the fish. It shows what happens when we stay with the “feeble strengh of one” and what happens when we are in coalition. The People United Never Defeated also comes to mine. QWB is trying to build a multi-issue group in the glbt community and all the little fish who band together wins the battle where those who stand for one issue get swallowed. I think it works for where we are at now.
The design/logo of the fish is good since it conveys visually the chance many minnows have when they swim together against a mighty monster, compared to no chance alone against a greedy gobbler.
As a silent partner, my thinking is the fish is best. I liked the police car at first but maybe it is too violent for right now. I like the written text!
Brother M(A)tt,
Thank you for taking on this project. It is always a challenge to distill an organization’s essence on to a flyer. You have chosen excellent adjectives which capture the militant, sassy spirit of QWB.
I appreciate your creativity and don’t mean to complicate this process. If feasible, I’d like to see graphics playing on the theme of dismantling borders. Such as removing bricks from a wall as in the US-Mexico border. Or cutting barbed wire prison fences as in Guantanamo. Or hands joined in solidarity across other artificial boundaries. Maybe some color pink sprinkled in. Unfortunately, I do not have the gay artistic (cr)homosone to be able to sketch these suggestions myself.
Your work has definitely stimulated some great possibilities. Thanks for your dedication!
Years ago Cheryl Linear and I did a program called “Tear Down The Walls” It was a panel on racism. What a radical panel it was. Ed Centaneo did a great poster for us. It was two hands clasped together behind an opening that had been made by tearing apart a brick wall. There were even a few bricks flying to give the piece action. Ed had some type of art program that he used.
I like were Frank has taken us with his artistic mind.
Jeri and Anja will be back in a couple of days and will look at blogs then.
Wishing you all beautiful holidays.
Check out the logo from Anarchists Against the Wall from Israel. I could perhaps tailor that a little.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchists_against_the_wall
Also have a look at the logo on the front page here: http://noborderscamp.org.
Then there’s these:
http://deletetheborder.org/files/noborders-drawing.png
http://www.loveseesnoborders.org/Resources/Image5.gif
http://www.abcnorio.org/images/drooker_web.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/blog/images/20070328_wall.jpg
http://www.shtig.net/image/holey_wall14.jpg
Thank you for undertaking this feat Matt. I really like the words you chose and that there are so many–and such a variety–to fit those who are here and those yet to arrive. Anybody can find themselves in those words.
I like all the logos, but maybe the pig more… with the fish our problem is so many people are deluded into thinking they are the big fish or can become it one day–at the very least recognizing the leviathan but still not wanting to identify with that little one, thinking that alone is power or exemption from powerlessness. Someone I know comes to mind in saying that. Our biggest problem at the moment may not be the the monster but the minnows escorting it around. With the first logo, I agree with Richard and Tim.
The flying pig can say a number of things to different people without compromising anyone’s vision. Looking at it I thought that can be a hell no for the big fish or a hell yeah for all of us or both–I don’t know what it’s INTENDED to mean but it still means something for me. I like that it’s less concrete but still provocative, and doesn’t immediately say how we’ll get where we’re going the way the first two logos do. I can bring the first two logos with me to the third one if I want; it doesn’t tell me I can’t.
Maybe those words should be behind a crumbling wall to show us what we’re depriving ourselves of by upholding farcical structures.
Merry Christmas everybody
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I like where Alvin has taken us with his last sentence.
But Wait!!!!!!Go up to the master head and read what we say. We are more than a wall to knock holes in and not in just one place. ie: Mexico, Israel and anything that would limit us to a physcial place or one issue isn’t right.
Maybe forget the logo at the bottom and just go with the words. Let’s see if we can add any other words.
All of the logo’s presented are great but none are just right.
Great work matt and clearly a lot of input. Sorry for being tardy but just using the last weeks of Dec to chill and catch up on personal stuff. I kinda like the one with cops, but as Tim mentioned, it probably is not applicable in the group sense. I do like the general color scheme and crispness of the layout with the grayed verbiage in the background. Could work as a great watermark also.
Alvin makes a great point about the crumbling wall. Not keen on the pig or the fishies. I will mull over my thoughts for a graphic.
Thanks matt for taking a shot at this and you also are very creative in so many ways.
I sent Matt a note this am which said, “Why not use all the logos. Some people can get the police car, some the fish, some the this and some the that.” Sort of like all of us in QWB. We can use others that have been mentioned. Or if someone wants to add one please do so.
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